Startups Should Be Careful About Seed Rounds
More venture capitalists are going to seed as a way to test out startups, according to Wilson Sonsini partner Caine Moss — giving a small amount of money and then stepping back to see “if these guys can turn the idea into something.”
If the entrepreneur shows enough progress, the VC will do a more conventional Series A round and get more actively involved.
Sometimes this works out well (for the entrepreneur). For example, take WaterCooler, a startup that builds online communities of sports fans and TV shows. It raised $4 million in a Series A funding this way from Canaan Partners. (disclosure: the investor here is Moss’s wife).
But it can backfire if the startup doesn’t show progress and the VC decides to drop the company. One big problem, according to Moss and several others, is that seed investments are not low-risk. They require investors to roll up their sleeves and get heavily involved in companies, and not all VCs are used to doing this — nor do they have time because they’re busy tending their other companies.
“Some of the VCs are very good at it — especially if they’re very familiar with the management teams they’re seeding — but those are exceptions to the rule,” Moss says.
One seed investor, Flywheel Ventures, requires partners to spend 20 hours a week at each of their companies for the first year or 18 months of the investment, said Flywheel founder Trevor Loy. He also warns that enterpreneurs who give away too much of their company too early may find later investors trying to “trump” the seed round with more punitive terms.

Investor said on August 28, 2009
Really? the biggest problem is that the VCs won’t roll-up their sleeves? That may be the biggest benefit.
You miss the real issue: if you take a seed round from a large VC, and if they decide not to participate in the next round, you’re dead. Plain and simple. No one wants someone else’s trash, no matter how reputable. Unlike a real Series A, the amount a VC commits is small enough that their skin in the game is very little, so it’s a very likely outcome.
So for a seed round, never take money from a large VC. Always pick a seed fund/angels/friends&family. You want to take money from a large VC? make it a real Series A.
Matt Marshall said on August 28, 2009
Deborah,
This kind of looks like the story we ran three days ago at VentureBeat
http://entrepreneur.venturebeat.com/2009/08/24/seed-is-the-new-series-a-for-vcs/
Mike Alfred said on August 28, 2009
You make VCs sound like babysitters. Hey, I kind of like that.
Yuri Ammosov said on August 28, 2009
Matt: it looks suspiciously like WSGR PR…
Deborah Gage said on August 28, 2009
The story Matt’s talking about is here:
http://entrepreneur.venturebeat.com/2009/08/24/seed-is-the-new-series-a-for-vcs/
just.a.guy said on August 28, 2009
“Investor” is right. Never, ever take a seed check from an investor whose business model requires them to do entire Series A investments. They will think of the seed investment as a call option on the next round. And because nobody else will touch the deal if they walk away, if they do a next round it will be on unfavorable terms.
Savvy entrepreneurs know this (or are wise enough to seek counsel from people who do), and it is why attempts at seed funds by usual-suspect series a guys (e.g. CRV) are cursed with the lemons problem.